00:00:00,000 I had butted Bernad Criven’s. Welcome to Git Shirti, the podcast that
likes to look at the little things in life which never fail to irritate.
00:00:09,560 Each episode we ask our special guest to talk about what gets them
shirty at home, work and going out. Then our off the cuff surprise
question could take the chat anywhere.
00:00:20,920 Each guest also designs their own mate a measure shirt which we then
make, so we talk about that too. Funny that, us being tailors.
00:00:28,560 [Music] It’s Git Shirti time once again and it’s another first for the
podcast of very first returning guest who also happen to be our very first
guest as actor Nigel Betz returning to chat
00:01:01,360 again in our very first second measure episode. Now, your title, I’m sure
you’ll agree. Now as Nigel has been on before we could hardly expect
him to get shirty about all the
00:01:12,720 same things again, so he will also be the first guest to tell us all the
things shirty about the three ages of life or our version of it, childhood,
the teenage years and being a grown up.
00:01:25,400 It’s our chance to get to know our returning guest that little bit better and
see what has got them shirty over the years. Of course the hatty cuff of
the cuff section will be making appearance and if you’re a subscriber
00:01:36,560 to our Patreon page you will also hear just how Nigel got collared back
in the day. So here we go, one guest, two mics, three tailors and a host
of shirties through the ages.
00:01:48,200 Let’s get shirty. Welcome back Nigel. Thank you.
00:02:02,560 You are the first of our returning series I would say because hopefully
we’ll find some other people who will agree to come back. We didn’t
show too much because I’m sure you will.
00:02:15,680 So you are officially the first second measure. Right. That’s what this is
called now.
00:02:21,560 First second. The first second. Yeah, that’s right, rather than the second
first.
00:02:26,400 First second and we’re going to do things differently but first off how
have you been? I’ve been very well, thank you. Ticking along.
00:02:34,840 Ticking along. Your shirt has got a lot of wear out of it which is why it’s
quite nice to come back and get a second.
00:02:40,440 Exactly, yeah. Yeah, you wouldn’t be here if you wasn’t for the year.
Absolutely.
00:02:44,400 I need to replace minute shirts. I want your free shirt from you. Yes you
are.
00:02:49,480 Yeah. But you know, there’s lots of coverage on various YouTube
channels of your shirt and we’ll be in teacher.
00:02:58,920 Exactly. And the first night I always went to first nights. Perfect.
00:03:02,760 Perfect, that’s what we’re like. Now we’re always happily give shirts to
our friends. Well, not necessarily.
00:03:11,000 But you’re not even away, stuff like that. Every time I land back, it’s not
quite tight enough so it’s clicking. So it was a bit more.
00:03:27,360 Yeah. Yeah. No.
00:03:30,360 You raised, you make this very high-brown. Welcome back to South.
Yeah, is there enough to nine o’clock version of the podcast?
00:03:37,600 Should be. Yeah, what would we call that? I don’t know.
00:03:42,680 Nightshed. Nightshed. Oh, seeing that.
00:03:45,680 Yeah, we should call it that. The late nights where we sound version
where you host. And you just talk inappropriately to people and we call
it nightshed.
00:03:53,160 Yeah, that’s good. Well, luckily there’s no watershed on the internet. No.
00:03:56,760 That’s true. Yeah, it’s a little thing in the going on the BBC. No, but we
could go ex, you know, you could just say this is our ex rated.
00:04:03,200 Yes. Drone and be listened to people of a certain age. Yeah.
00:04:07,400 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, get shared piece of naughty. Yeah.
00:04:11,840 Oh, right. Yeah, I was on that. Yeah, I was on that.
00:04:15,840 They did. So, yeah, in the world, since we saw you last night, other
worlds sort of gone mad. It’s gone mad.
00:04:21,480 Yeah, it’s gone crazy. Yeah, sick for our little… A waste of satiety.
00:04:27,360 Yeah, that’s the word I was reaching for, but I was coming up with Paul.
Paul’s good, yeah. That would be.
00:04:34,680 And, yeah, you’ve been doing bits and pieces since we were very long.
Yeah, a real mix. Been doing lots of strange voices for games and
various other things.
00:04:47,800 Doing a bit of filming. A bit of favourite voice that you’ve heard today. I
quite enjoyed being a dragon for a few months.
00:04:57,800 That was interesting. Yeah. A Japanese dragon.
00:05:01,600 Initially, also one of the characters was a samurai and we had to be
quite careful in these times that it didn’t get… Didn’t be.
00:05:11,880 …become inappropriate samurai warrior limitations. Yeah. But, you
know, the dragon was easier because, you know, dragons can be from
anywhere.
00:05:19,640 That’s true. So, yeah, that was good. And then, but a stage work.
00:05:24,040 And the alcohol… Yeah, very successful play. Yes.
00:05:27,840 And I think I just hit the mic with my finger. Yeah, no, it was really well
received, actually. It was an interesting point to…
00:05:35,040 Was it a two-hander? It’s three-hander. But it often felt like a
two-hander.
00:05:40,920 I mean, because it was like tag, you know. I was the unfortunate person
that was on stage all the time. So, somebody would come on and start
talking to me and then they would leave and something else would
come on.
00:05:49,800 So, they did a tag team and I just had to sit there and remember the
two hours. Everything. But no, it was good.
00:05:58,240 It was a very interesting new piece. Oh, so the play was good. Play and
being a dragon and…
00:06:04,560 Yeah, it’s interesting. You’ve had sort of a nice mix of stuff. Yeah, real, a
real diversity of things, to be honest.
00:06:10,360 Yeah, it’s been quite interesting. And also doing something that I
haven’t done for years, but of rekindling interest in, which is doing
corporate training,
00:06:19,240 going into businesses and teaching them how to listen to each other
and be nice. Wow. I think we should book him.
00:06:26,160 Yeah, that’s not… Well, we could turn the podcast into session now,
couldn’t we? That’s quite easy to do a lot of those.
00:06:33,080 He kind of was the beginning of all, yeah. He really sort of instigated
that whole thing, but it’s become a massive industry in terms of just
approaching business from a different direction
00:06:47,920 and about interaction, human interaction, because the main variance in
any business are the people. And any business has its sort of technical
wonder,
00:06:57,480 you’re making a suit, you’re making a suit, but the interaction between
the suit maker and the buyer, that’s the front end, and it’s all those
conversations, it’s all making selling easier, conflict resolution, all kinds
of things.
00:07:11,240 I suppose as we move into the future, there’s a whole group of people
who are coming into the workplace who were perhaps some of their
formative years were during COVID.
00:07:23,360 And also, technology has changed that social interaction, like getting
somebody under the age of 20 to pick up the phone rather than just
takes you as a very different thing. Absolutely.
00:07:35,240 There’s probably some skills which are lacking. Which are good… Basic
human interaction is…
00:07:41,840 The ability to have a conversation and not to listen, and to be aware of
where you’re coming from, in terms of what your biases are,
00:07:55,840 and just trying to remember that everybody comes into a room with a
life, and we need to have a bit more empathy, I think. Yeah.
00:08:07,080 Oh, it’s good, that sounds really interesting. So you go into, is it larger
corporations? It really varies.
00:08:16,240 We’ve done training for people at Lake Tarmac, and also boiler systems
to high-end, sort of orange big banks, Swiss bank, Deutsche Bank,
00:08:34,320 so literally the full spectrum of the world. And mainly live, I suppose, is
what I’ve been doing, but you have also done a couple of meetings
00:08:44,640 where you’re doing training via Zoom or meetings. That can be quite
strange, because that can be eight people all in different parts of the
world.
00:08:56,240 Or wearing neverjamas. Or wearing neverjamas. Except for one man
who I realised halfway through the training
00:09:02,960 was actually on a train from Paris to Geneva, and was actually doing
the course while he was on the train. With his headphones, live on
Zoom, obviously he’d changed the background,
00:09:16,720 but he was on a train. Was it? We’ve been in a mall all over the train.
00:09:22,480 It was the sudden appearance of coffee and biscuits. Yeah, well, but
he’s done. Obviously, a very confident man, happy to talk about
business
00:09:31,600 on a train to Geneva. Second measure, here we go. Yes.
00:09:40,640 So because you are returning, we didn’t want to make you go down the
same get-shirty route that you went down before. So we’re going to
change things up.
00:09:53,120 So it’s not work, rest, and play like it was before. We’re looking at, as
we discussed before, we started recording, perhaps the ages of man
00:10:00,080 or the ages of person. Yeah, I would say it. So we’re looking for the
get-shirties of being a kid.
00:10:10,560 Or being younger, the sort of adolescence of the teenage years, and
then a get-shirty about being a grown-up, which, you know, I suppose,
any aspect of being a grown-up,
00:10:20,880 that could go down. So it’s sort of historical, well, not, you know, that
may just sound…
00:10:26,960 Well, we’re getting that. It’s historical, I’m sorry. We’re starting, if I can
remember, without far back.
00:10:33,040 Yeah, so let’s kick things off with what used to get you shirtied about
being a kid? Being a kid.
00:10:42,000 This is quite some time ago. I’m sorry, a couple of years ago. Yeah,
yeah.
00:10:49,040 Mentally, definitely. Yeah. I, yeah, it’s going to be hard, because I think
00:10:54,640 I had a relatively blessed childhood in many respects. I, yeah, I was
well loved and well looked after. Yeah.
00:11:08,320 I didn’t have a mother. I’m obviously originally, I had one. Yeah.
00:11:12,000 But I lost one. I always say, people say losing. You don’t lose them,
sadly.
00:11:15,520 They die. Yeah. They don’t disappear.
00:11:18,160 When I was about seven. Okay. And so I think that, if I ever, it’s not
really getting
00:11:26,160 surety, that kind of didn’t get in the way of, of, of parties. Yeah. Kids’
parties, and, you know, sure.
00:11:36,720 Well, it sort of changes the course of, of, of what would have been
considered a sort of normal child. Yes. Well, sadly less so now.
00:11:47,040 I talked to my daughter and about being one parent family, and she
says 90% of her confederates come from that Marama. At that time,
and because it was a result of death rather than divorce,
00:11:58,640 yes, it was, it was quite an unusual thing. Yeah. It had a split, it was a
bit split personality, because in one respect,
00:12:06,400 it made you different, and it was always bad to be different when you,
you want to be part of the crowd. But also it made you slightly unique
and, and it, yes, you need to give you an interest.
00:12:17,680 Yeah. Yeah. And a little level of spoiling from, from, from aunts and, and
big sisters.
00:12:23,520 So yeah, I got away with probably a lot more than I would have done if I
had a, Oh, since my mother. So yeah, so it gave you a,
00:12:30,560 a sort of level of freedom that you wouldn’t have had in many respects,
yeah, just on the edge of brat in us. But just pulling back, which you
fought for to your acting.
00:12:46,960 Yes, you know, the tiles of you in changing rooms and, Oh, sets, floor
slamming demands.
00:12:55,200 Yeah. And it was, yeah, it was interesting in that it does, it does
formulate even a slightly different way you do, very self-contained, I
think.
00:13:04,720 But I think also what I can remember is injustice. Again, I think I even
mentioned this the first time around it. So it must have been very deep
rooted, perhaps, from them.
00:13:15,120 It sort of, I was obviously started at that point where, sort of, certainly
being told off of things I hadn’t done, was kind of a red-red-red-wabull,
even at that early age, I used to really hate.
00:13:28,720 Yeah. And I suppose you want to respect good that it wasn’t just me,
but whenever I saw it in other people, yeah, or, you know, mates
getting done for things they hadn’t actually done,
00:13:38,320 I used to get very hot under the collar and, yeah, and the shounen
stamp. Right. So you’d sort of stand up to the injustice?
00:13:46,800 Yes, and it did manifest in a slightly strange way once in that I, I found
Sunday school tricky, because I used to get to Sunday school with the
nuns. And I brought up one particular Sunday that I felt it rather unfair
that Judas got a bad rap
00:14:14,000 for the Jesus thing. Because the Jesus thing, yeah. Well, I thought,
well, if he’s, you know, if God is all seeing the knowing, then he knew
what
00:14:24,560 Judas was going to do, and that if Judas hadn’t done it, then Judas
wouldn’t have died and then come back to save us all. So actually, he
was basically doing his all the favour.
00:14:35,760 Yeah. And he was getting the bad rap. So I did bring this up with the
nuns, and strangely, it didn’t go down awfully well.
00:14:45,120 No, that is strange. You think they would have embraced that
theological idea? No, apparently, I was missing the point.
00:14:53,440 And I couldn’t see why that he shouldn’t actually be sitting on one of
God’s hands, if not left or the right, at the end, because he’d done a big
service for us all. Yeah, certainly, Joe.
00:15:07,120 He thought about seeing that with Jane, just a sort of injustice to you. I
think that might be an idea for the future. We’ll make the seats. Perfect.
Yeah, right in with the wrong.
00:15:18,640 That’s it. We both need a cape. Yeah, we can sort of that. That’s
excellent.
00:15:23,360 Obviously, mind us have to be a tweed cape, but I don’t know what
James would go for, like probably. Yeah, we’ll see then we could make
you sort of a nice inveness cape.
00:15:32,640 Nice. Yeah, very nice. Very fun, a nice tweed.
00:15:35,360 So more like sort of homes and Watson, fighting injustice? I don’t know.
Being that you’ve already put first dibs in on the cape, that makes you
homes.
00:15:43,760 Of course. Yeah, yeah. But he’s got a very good mustache, so he would
be a perfect Watson to be found.
00:15:47,840 Yeah, he would. That’s he has got a good time actually. Yeah, he has.
Well, I look forward to that.
00:15:52,560 Yeah. We could send you up and down the country. I think you might
have created a beast there.
00:15:58,240 When James hears this, there’ll be no stopping him. Yeah, yeah, that’s
true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:04,000 There’s been men who’ll be cruelling, won’t they? They will. Yeah, yeah,
yeah.
00:16:07,600 Yeah, that’s the idea, yeah, he did not either of it. What was it specific
about Benman that teed and laid? Did something, it didn’t, did
something, didn’t do something?
00:16:15,600 Yeah, well, because he stitched them up the road. Yeah, and then he
sorted the half of his neighbour. Yeah.
00:16:19,840 And he said he had a moment after shouting and chasing them that he
went, “What have I become now?” “What have I done?”
00:16:26,400 “Who have I turned into?” But, yeah, in fact, Ben’s a come up a few
times. He went out litter picking.
00:16:34,400 Mark Morris. Mark Morris. Oh, is this non-collection?
00:16:36,960 Or is it just when they no longer actually, when they knock things over,
they don’t pick them up any more? That was him in the road.
00:16:43,520 Mark, Mark didn’t like that. And he went out, he bought himself a high,
so he’s the singer of the blue tings. Right.
00:16:49,520 And he bought himself a high vis jacket so that he could go out at night
when everybody was in bed, but not that weird and pick up the rubbish
that,
00:16:57,840 he was actually just litter picking down his road, wasn’t he? And, yeah, I
can’t remember what the James thing was. There was something to do
with the collection, and they’d not collected it.
00:17:07,280 They’d been all thrown. I’d stick it up with his neighbor. He was sticking
with his neighbor, yeah.
00:17:10,320 He is, I have to say, that’s probably one of our big connections. He is a
wrangler against injustice, as am I. But, actually, I do think he’s probably
a little bit more vocal.
00:17:21,760 I can see the red coming above his collar, because I’m tend to be a
calmer approach. Well, so, yeah, the Hounds and Watson
00:17:32,080 of… It’s like… We can get by, yeah, you know, as well. Yeah.
00:17:37,600 He’s more like the bruiser in these, these are the boasts of… He’s the
boss, yeah.
00:17:42,400 He’s the boss of… Yeah. You two going first.
00:17:45,600 We’ll work it out and we’ll send him off to talk about it. Yeah. Exactly.
00:17:50,800 I quite like that. It’s like a new watchdog. Yeah, if anybody’s
commissioning programs…
00:17:56,000 Absolutely. Yeah, we’re there. I can see us, but…
00:17:59,600 I’m not bad. You just put up in there, so… Yeah! Well, we look pushing
this on it.
00:18:04,240 It’s nothing else. Well, actually, I think, yeah, it’s not…
00:18:06,640 Let’s have a watchdog more of a new… Crime program. But dealing
with injustice rather than actual crimes.
00:18:13,440 Yeah, yeah, that’s it. Well, a new movement. Let’s push it one way or
another.
00:18:17,120 Yeah, you know, that’s… Absolutely. Let’s be ambitious about it.
00:18:20,800 Getting away from AI and back to people. Exactly. That’s good.
00:18:24,720 Well, that’s how we can probably just start on that now. Yeah. Turn this
into…
00:18:29,680 Well, yeah, injustice. And I think especially when you’re… when you’re
young,
00:18:34,560 like that… because you feel quite powerless actually when you’re
young. You know, all you can do is sort of use your voice
00:18:41,200 if you feel brave enough. I’ll fall in there for a different arms, I kid. But…
00:18:43,840 So that sense of injustice comes quite, quite quickly. You know, like it…
if you siblings do something or somebody at school
00:18:52,640 does something and you get the blame or the teacher won’t listen to
you or something like that, it’s…
00:18:58,080 You know, they are, I suppose, when you’re in those early years. They
are the biggest injustice that you’ll face, probably, you know,
proportionately to getting older.
00:19:07,600 That whole aspect of punishing everybody for one person is Mr. Meena
and that as a teaching tool, never really that comfortable with me. Yeah,
it’s funny, isn’t it?
00:19:18,400 You’re all going to miss your break time unless somebody owns that.
Yeah, how do you…
00:19:21,680 What? Yeah, and that… that comes the point where you sort of think,
00:19:25,760 “Well, I’ll take their blame for, you know, for everybody, so everybody
else can go out and even though it wasn’t me, I suppose.”
00:19:33,760 Do you ever do that? No. Who do that?
00:19:37,360 Just me. Just me. I mean, great.
00:19:40,160 Love being… Your mates must have loved you, but… Yeah.
00:19:43,360 Pwere. Well, I look working to my world, you know. Yeah, so…
00:19:48,400 But… No, that’s not… So, yeah, injustice, sort of…
00:19:52,560 I’m… That’s a fairly good one. I can think of lots of things.
00:19:56,160 And a flip side as well, because I probably… I do remember getting
banned from scouts on my induction day. Right, so I’m on the very first
day.
00:20:05,360 Yeah, yeah. We played… We were there sort of getting to know you and
playing sport,
00:20:09,760 and we were playing football, and a kid tackled me rather… Hardly, and
rather than just being British, getting up smiling and running it off,
00:20:20,560 I’d turn around and might have hit him. There are. Which, again, that
younger age, he wasn’t the thing to do.
00:20:27,360 Certainly not in the scouts. No. And so I was asked, perhaps not come
back.
00:20:32,160 Right. And he never went back. I know. I didn’t.
00:20:35,360 It was very short. Very short. It was a scout report.
00:20:38,960 That, actually, you’re right. I think it was… I came to Cubs for a very
late, so maybe that was a problem.
00:20:44,160 I would have been literally… I’ve only got probably about one year of
scouts. Cubs.
00:20:49,360 So I was on a cusp. I didn’t get that. But…
00:20:52,160 Yeah. Especially if they’d been going a while and it was a sort of tight
knit… Yeah.
00:20:56,960 …thing you’ve got sort of got to make yourself known somehow, haven’t
you? But perhaps not in that way. No, maybe not.
00:21:04,160 But… But… Who…
00:21:06,560 All these years later, on a podcast, it’s… Yes. …served you well.
00:21:11,360 Absolutely. And whoever you were, I am sorry. Yeah.
00:21:15,360 And I’m just sort of the… The title for the new crime show, “Pitch with
Me.” Oh, good.
00:21:20,160 Go for it. Taylor Justice. Oh.
00:21:22,560 I see what you did there. Very good. Very good.
00:21:25,360 Very good. Yeah, that’s good. That is good.
00:21:28,160 Taylor Justice. Well, perhaps… That’s all I’ve been thinking about.
00:21:33,360 I’ve been thinking about… It works quite well because if… James and I
appear basically as…
00:21:38,160 We’re working in your Taylor Shop and… Yeah. And, you know, in our
tea breaks or lunch times…
00:21:43,360 We go off and… …fall crimes when we’re in a company. We’re going like
a…
00:21:46,960 …pins stripe… …old-school telephone… …pins stripe it up.
00:21:50,560 Nice. And that… …jangles…
00:21:52,160 …dingle-jangles, yeah. You know, you get the call… …we’ve got
another…
00:21:56,560 …we’ve heard of a… …scout who’s just been punched in the face
tonight. An actor from the past.
00:22:03,360 A little little lady has not had a bins taken away. And off… You have the
changer in like Mr Ben that goes into where ever.
00:22:10,560 Yeah. Oh, we’re bringing the old things again, aren’t we? But all the
hats been Mr Ben who would be perfect.
00:22:15,360 Yeah, that would be good. All right, nice. Okay.
00:22:18,160 That’s good. So let’s… …let’s write this down on our edge.
00:22:20,960 You record me. Yeah, that’s good. That’s the…
00:22:27,360 …early… …that’s the young, not young. The young?
00:22:30,160 What about the rabble rails in teenage knowledge? What… …what are
the get-shirties there?
00:22:34,960 What… …is… is there… …is there something that was consistently
get-shirty for you?
00:22:40,160 Or can you think of a… …articular instance? Ah…
00:22:44,560 …again, it’s tricky because… …um, I… …because I was an only child
and it would just be in my dad.
00:22:50,560 I didn’t have… …as you were saying earlier, I was… …self-ident, I didn’t
have anything to rebel against.
00:22:56,360 No. So, you know, I wasn’t a case where I’ll do this… …to rebel because
I was kind of like…
00:23:01,160 …I was a latch-key kid. I had my key. I came and went as a police.
00:23:05,160 You know? So it was… …it was kind of…
00:23:08,360 …yeah, there was nothing to… …that’s what I was angry about. I didn’t
have anything to rebel against.
00:23:13,360 Ah, yeah. Which is actually… …can’t be…
00:23:17,960 …you sort of need that as a… …as a teen. Yeah, I left it to later in life to
do that, but yeah, yeah.
00:23:23,160 But yeah, it’s a teen. This is very specific, so… Okay.
00:23:32,360 I used to like a particular packet… …ham, right? And…
00:23:36,960 …because it was my afterschool snack. Right. So, if that wasn’t in the
picture and I got home from school…
00:23:41,560 …I would get that sort of… …teen age happy about it. Yeah, I can…
00:23:44,960 …specifically be. I can… …I can…
00:23:48,360 …I would… …second relate to that, but I can… …understand it.
00:23:51,760 Yeah, it was… …I’d get in from school, roll up a slice of ham… …yeah.
00:23:55,160 …sort of eat that. So, my man got the ham, maybe. Yeah.
00:23:58,760 …I’d get a bit… …shurty. …get a bit shirted.
00:24:01,160 Yeah. Low level shirted. No, obviously.
00:24:04,360 But, yeah. And… …what else would he look?
00:24:07,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ll… …don’t get me started.
00:24:10,960 Come on, show me the group. Yeah, yeah. Would you substitute it with
if he didn’t have your ham?
00:24:15,560 Well, this may… …but this won’t surprise you too. I am a…
00:24:20,560 …cruiture habit… …through necessity, I think, is ham a brainwired…
…so it was…
00:24:26,560 …pack of ready-sorty crisps… …with a slice of ham… …and then a pack
of ready-sorty crisps…
00:24:32,560 …with a dairy milk bar. Right. …and…
00:24:35,960 …chunk of dairy milks and crisps, chunk of dairy milks. Oh, yeah, I
can… …yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:39,760 The first… …sorty chocolate… …went with the slice of ham.
00:24:43,760 So, if I… …if I didn’t have something like that… …you saw if there’s one
element of that missing…
00:24:49,760 …it’s sort of through a msnack routine, eh? That would… …know what
to know, yeah.
00:24:53,360 It did it on. I did move into my… …the beginnings of my strange…
00:24:58,360 …colonery… …jerny. I used to make bacon and…
00:25:03,960 …strawberry jam sandwiches. Ooh. Which…
00:25:09,360 …you see, that’s a positive response. Usually people look at me as if I
just… …killed a small child by the…
00:25:15,160 …sweet saviour. Mmm, that’s what it’s a bit salty. Yeah.
00:25:19,560 ‘Cause now, you get… …cause in… …five guys…
00:25:22,560 …you can order a milkshake… …with bacon bits in it. Right?
00:25:27,160 No, I didn’t know that, yeah. So… I might want all because…
00:25:30,160 …well, I watched a bacon thing and they made… …cupcake… …for the
little cupcakes…
00:25:34,560 …with the strawberry… …goofmiddler… …with a bacon and…
00:25:38,960 …I think… …you tried it a little bit? Oh, yeah.
00:25:41,560 Tender edge, yeah, that’s it, you see. Sounds like that. Yeah, so what
made you go…
00:25:45,760 …yeah, I’m doing that. Can you remember the first time you did it?
Um…
00:25:51,960 …I think it was just… …because I could, ’cause I was alone. (Laughs)
00:25:56,960 There was nobody there. There was nobody there to stop me. Yeah,
yeah, yeah.
00:26:01,760 There was me… …me in the fridge, a frying pan. No, no, no, no, no, you
didn’t.
00:26:07,160 No, you’ve gone into the night shirt, mate. Yeah, yeah. I’ve a night shirt,
look at that.
00:26:13,560 Yeah, yeah. That was a meme, did you miss that? I think I did.
00:26:16,960 I can’t believe it. I’ve got a pump. Yeah, it’s hard to listen.
00:26:21,960 So, yeah, so… It was you were alone in the… I was alone, I thought.
00:26:25,960 I wonder, wonder what? What if? What if?
00:26:29,960 And that’s where, you know, my life started… …it was… …it was been a
whole stream of…
00:26:32,960 …what if I do that? Sometimes it gets you into good places sometimes.
Not so good.
00:26:38,760 But, yeah, it looks interesting. I think… …in your line of work…
00:26:44,160 …I think a “what if” question is one of the best questions… …it can ask
itself. The only question, yeah.
00:26:49,560 It’s… It’s the same with writers. What if?
00:26:52,360 The most important question you can ask yourself. Yeah. What if?
00:26:56,360 Yeah, look. Any other “what if” sandwiches… …that got thrown into the
mix?
00:27:00,360 I was a bit late coming to the… …painted butter and cucumber. I was a
bit late.
00:27:08,760 I’ve still not got there. Oh, well, that’s… It does sound nice.
00:27:12,560 Again, you get that sort of crunch in this crunch. And then a bit cold.
And, yeah.
00:27:16,960 Well, I’ve finished a triple-decker… …tomato ketchup sandwiches. Yeah,
tomatok ketchup sandwiches.
00:27:22,160 It’s a lash. It’s a lash ketchup bread. Yeah, that is too much.
00:27:25,160 Well, I… …cero-savages? Yeah, but my aunt used to…
00:27:29,160 …because of the post-war… …used to give us… …sugar sandwiches.
00:27:33,760 Yeah, that was kind of… …my children. I’ll get my children.
00:27:37,960 That’s nice. Look, you can’t go… …so here’s one of my what-ifs…
00:27:43,760 …is Jacob’s cracker… …buttered with… …oxo cubes sprinkled on the
top.
00:27:48,760 Yeah, that’s just wrong. Yeah. That’s brilliant.
00:27:52,760 Your face said, “Oh!” And the words were like, “No.” You try it.
00:27:56,560 No, okay. If not lots of… …not lots on the top, it’s got to be…
00:27:59,960 …oxo, not gravy-gray, no? Oh, okay. Yeah, it’s very specific.
00:28:02,960 Yeah, oxo sort of like a… …a little corner of an oxo cube on top. Right.
00:28:08,160 So, like dried… …it’s like a dried meat sandwich. Yeah, but all the
cracker is…
00:28:12,960 Yeah, all the cracker, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same like…
00:28:15,960 …or a drink. …with a sort of ketchup. …but above all, nothing wrong
with that.
00:28:19,960 Here, cos then it’s beef and tomatoes. Is it bone broth? Bone broth,
which is…
00:28:25,960 …there’s all kinds of wrong, but actually… …it’s really good for you… …if
you can get pasta taste.
00:28:31,760 Cos… …the taste is all right, it’s a smell, but it’s that link… …don’t sniff it
before you drink it.
00:28:37,160 Like the serving you take it. I mean, it’s like… Yeah.
00:28:41,360 That really does apply, do you know? Is that one of your golden balls?
Absolutely, yeah.
00:28:46,360 Yeah. It’s in his book, in the book. That’s all in the book.
00:28:50,360 Don’t sniff it before you drink it. That should go in our book, though, for
sure. We do have a book here.
00:28:56,360 Oh, right. So, if any one of us says something which is… …slightly
inappropriate, just plain weird.
00:29:02,360 Very inappropriate. Or very inappropriate. It’s…
00:29:05,760 …deam. Once it breaches, a certain level, and it’s like, …that has to go
in the book, so we’d rather be getting it.
00:29:10,360 Yeah, yeah. But you could be that first, the… …non-employee,
non-workup.
00:29:15,360 Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, that, and on it. And on it.
00:29:18,360 Yeah. We should be on that. Ah!
00:29:22,360 Ah! All right, I’ve been doubled down on that, too. Yeah, that’s good.
00:29:26,360 Ah, so, yeah. So, where were we with the teenagers? So, actually, your
git-shirty was not really having anything to get shirty about.
00:29:34,960 Yeah, there was an anti-git-shirty. Anti-git-shirty, I didn’t really have
anything to get cross-about until… …yeah, until later in life.
00:29:43,960 Yeah. Wow, look. You know, you’re…
00:29:47,360 …you can join me with a lack of ham in the fridge. Yeah. Thank you.
00:29:51,960 But, yeah, it… …mine with food related, I think, when I was a teenager.
Yeah.
00:29:55,960 Injustice with nuns, but that was about it, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:29:59,960 Which, that sounds like a really good film. I think I’m quite… …injustice
with nuns.
00:30:04,960 I thought I didn’t have a key later at night, mate. Oh, right, you weren’t
that out of key. …at my house, where I didn’t work.
00:30:11,160 Just to get out of school. And the time when it really annoyed me was
I’d got home to watch… …Mack and Rose.
00:30:19,160 Oh, Connors. Oh, sorry. I saw the Mack and Rose…
00:30:22,760 …borg. It might have been good, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00:30:25,760 …backerable, probably. The one that he… …really wanted to see.
00:30:30,760 He was right… …they had the radio on, so I… …listened it to the little…
00:30:33,760 …that’s what I thought. That’s almost child abuse, isn’t it? Yeah, it is.
00:30:38,960 Yeah, it is. Didn’t… …backer, you know?
00:30:43,960 I do. They’re not allowing you to… …can’t trust you, you know, key.
00:30:48,560 Yeah, that’s fair. ‘Til I was 21. Yeah.
00:30:51,560 Wow, okay. So you were 21? So they really, really didn’t trust you?
00:30:54,960 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you may well have just been…
00:30:58,960 …a horrible, horrible herde. Oh, this is what I’ve seen, really. 21, you got
to hit her the door.
00:31:05,760 Yeah. I got it at 11. Yeah, he looked here.
00:31:10,160 Yeah, I was… …might… …I wasn’t quite at 11, maybe a little bit…
00:31:13,960 …a little bit older. Where are whiskers? Where are whiskers?
00:31:21,960 Do you know who’s all the facts? And she’s a bit rude. What were
whiskers here?
00:31:31,960 During the podcast, Stu 2 couldn’t remember… …which Wimbledon final
he wanted to watch at home. He worked out that it was the 1981 men’s
final…
00:31:41,560 …between John McEnroe and Beyond Borg… …which was played on
the 4th of July. McEnroe won four-set…
00:31:47,560 …with the final score… …four-six-seven-six-seven-six-seven-four…
…and six-four.
00:31:54,560 Borg had been undefeated at Wimbledon for 41 matches… …and he
was five-time defending champion. Where are whiskers?
00:32:05,960 Where are whiskers? Do you know who’s all the facts? And she’s a bit
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00:33:25,960 Let’s move into adulthood. And now these Ginturty’s, I suppose, could
be anything. I could cross over with the Ginturty’s that you had before.
00:33:39,960 You know, we still talk about the dishwasher. I think about you actually
most times I load a dishwasher. Thank you.
00:33:52,960 It’s a nice image day. Still to this day, in fact, last night. Only last night
there was a reworking of my dishwasher filling.
00:34:01,960 A moment after I had filled it. Well, it’s nice to see some consistency.
There are certain things we’ll never change.
00:34:11,960 And I realise the other day, when I reorganise, I tell myself I’m
reorganising… …and having people’s dishwasher load in, because I’ll be
able to get more in. Because they haven’t done it efficiently enough.
00:34:22,960 But I think that’s what I’m telling myself. But I’ve come to realise that
actually, I’m just putting in an order I like, because I don’t tend to get
any more in.
00:34:31,960 So, adult Ginturty. Sorry, I derailed it a little bit, talking about
dishwashers. No, well, you know, that was definitely still there.
00:34:42,960 So, what’s new in your adult life that you get sure to you about? It
keeps flipping back to that injustice. People that don’t do their jobs
properly.
00:34:55,960 People that sort of don’t do what it says in the tin. You know, you go,
well, you’ve got a job to do. And it’s not that difficult, so just do it.
00:35:04,960 It sounds random, but today, my wife was on the phone to a doctor as
a, rather than you don’t see them anymore, you have to have phone
calls with them. And the doctor, the last time I hadn’t phoneed at the
time she said she was going to phone.
00:35:19,960 Okay. And then, sent an angry letter saying, “You weren’t available
when I phone you.” Oh, really?
00:35:26,960 Yeah. That’s just got me a bit cross because you think, well, A, it means
that you don’t think anybody else has got any form of life outside of you.
00:35:35,960 A, and B, all you need to do is text somebody and say, “I’m going to be
really busy. I’m going to do an hour later.” Or, “I’m really sorry, things
have changed because I’m very busy because it’s the anti-jazz and raw,
very busy.”
00:35:47,960 Yeah. It’s just about communication. And so I get really cross-run
people just don’t do the simple things that make jobs a lot easier and a
lot more.
00:35:59,960 Yeah, yeah. Beneficial for everybody involved? Yeah, that’s fair.
00:36:03,960 I don’t have the other way around if you’re late for your phone. My wife
did point out, she said, “If I’d been an hour late for my appointment, I
wouldn’t have got my appointment with I.” Actually.
00:36:11,960 Yeah. It’s, it’s, it’s, that, it’s those injustices, it’s those bits where people
either don’t do their job properly or just don’t think of the impact and
therefore do a very simple thing which isn’t rocket science, which is just
communicate the problem before. And especially in a world where we
have mobile phones and every possible way of, you know, back in the
day when you had to walk down the streets of the local phone.
00:36:38,960 Yeah. You know, to arrange something and then arrange the night
before that you were going to be there to make the phone call. But now,
you know…
00:36:46,960 Is it a communication or is it because there are certain people that don’t
feel they need to think? I think people have got, there I say, they’ve got
very selfish and very, their, their time is more important than anybody
else is. It’s my massive hate rid of anybody that’s late.
00:37:05,960 I’ve, I’ve, I’ve must have said this last time, I think, lateness is a cardinal
thing because it basically says my time is more important than your
time. So it doesn’t matter if I’m late. And it shows a massive disrespect.
00:37:18,960 So yeah, that’s when I get, that’s when my shirty gets. And the doctor
thing is, as you say, I, I should be late for you, it doesn’t matter but you
can’t be late for me. It does matter, it does.
00:37:30,960 But doctors, if I’m one form, then nobody else. Yeah. Train stations,
wait, when there’s a, there’s a cancellation and they just don’t say why
there’s a cancellation or the train is not coming and they just don’t tell
you why it’s not coming.
00:37:43,960 Yeah. Just those little bits of communication that would make everybody
go angry but understandable. Therefore I can carry on my day rather
than just being left.
00:37:53,960 Yeah. Yeah, it’s the not knowing sort of with these things, isn’t it? Yeah,
poor communication is infuriating.
00:38:01,960 And nine times out of ten, what we imagine is worse than the thing
that’s not being communicated. Yeah. Yeah, it’s like if the train’s going to
be ten minutes late but they haven’t told you it’s going to be ten minutes
late, you think well I’m going to be able to die and I’m definitely going to
miss that thing.
00:38:17,960 Yeah. You sort of project everything forward, don’t you? Yeah.
00:38:21,960 And you don’t, no, you can’t make an informed decision. You can’t go,
oh well, I’ll go and have a coffee. Yeah.
00:38:26,960 Or, oh, I know that there’s going to be one in ten minutes time so I’ll get
that one. Yeah. Or I’ll be able to phone ahead and say, I’m going to be
late, I’m going to tell you the meeting I’m going to that I’m going to be
late and then before I’m used to, you’re not waiting around for me.
00:38:39,960 Yeah. No, no, that’s good. I mean, notoriously, I’m not a great
timekeeper, I have to say, I’m so full disclosure, I’m timekeeping is not
my forte.
00:38:53,960 Are you communicating that fact? No. I would do it, but we’re going to
have to have some lessons, don’t we?
00:38:59,960 Yeah, we will do it. Because what you remember, as we get older, our
time is less. Yeah. So, it’s one getting more surety about it, is that I
haven’t got that much time left.
00:39:10,960 I can’t afford to have it wasted. Yeah, proportionately, what we’ve got
left, that’s true. But, however, I was early to pick you up today.
00:39:19,960 You were. I was there waiting. And literally as we crossed the road, the
bacon sandwiches were going through the door.
00:39:25,960 Yeah, that’s right. So, today’s timings were spot on. Yeah, so I could get
them out, you know, and made it look like that’s how I, that’s normal
service.
00:39:33,960 You could, you were good to admit those. Yeah, that’s why it’s good that
I’ve said this on this podcast before. That’s why it’s good that people
come to us here, rather than me go out to other people.
00:39:43,960 Because I’m ready for them and they come here. Yeah. Yeah, rather
than relying on coming here.
00:39:50,960 Actually, we’ve had a real spate lately, haven’t we, people being early
for their appointments? Oh, yeah, like three quarters of an hour, right?
Yeah.
00:39:57,960 Oh, really early. But you’re just as bad. It can be, although for my
industry, we were always told right from the top and I’ve always kept it
as part of my life for everything now is on time is late.
00:40:08,960 Yeah, great. If I’m super early, somewhere. Yeah.
00:40:12,960 I’ll just hang around. Yeah. Absolutely.
00:40:15,960 I’d rather get somewhere early and go and have a coffee or read a book
than be rushing. That’s the thing. I don’t think you’re ever at your best if
you’ve just rushed in through the door for any job you do.
00:40:27,960 It’s better to have had a better time to just breathe a bit. I have a theory
about driving. I think a lot of driving rage and driving problems of course
by people being late.
00:40:38,960 Yeah. Because I think, well, I can get in a car and drive faster to get
there on time. Yeah.
00:40:44,960 And I think I’ll call them a lot more. Give yourself more time. I always
think it’s funny when you’re sort of saying to somebody, and I’m not
going to say this is a generalisation.
00:40:52,960 But when you’re discussing it with people that you’re perhaps in their
relationship with, that you’re going to be somewhere, we can go at this
time and you go, yes, we sort of the trains at nine o’clock. I said, yeah,
but we have to get to the train.
00:41:07,960 Yeah. And it’s not just getting to the station, we have to get to the door,
to the platform, and then on to the train. So we can’t get to the station at
nine o’clock because that’s when the train arrives.
00:41:17,960 Yes. And the entire journey, I’ll be the gets in at five past and then,
yeah, but then you’ve got to get off the train and walk to the other
platform to get on the other train. That’s just one thing.
00:41:31,960 I always allow, if I, I like to say, I always allow fuck up time along the
journey because… You want to do that? Yeah, and be early.
00:41:49,960 There’s lots of things we could take that and it’s not. So, yeah, you’ve
got to fuck up time. But I live in that time.
00:41:59,960 Right. That’s… I can’t remember on what podcast it was, there was
somebody talking about it, who similarly wired in the way that I am, and
they talk about…
00:42:10,960 It’s like magic. There was that Harry Potter time, they called it
something like that. Was it Alex?
00:42:18,960 Beard. I can’t remember. But basically, there’s time.
00:42:22,960 You always think you’ve always got time to do something, and then it
suddenly disappears and then you’re surprised. So you think, well, next
time I’ll allow more time to do that, but the next time you still think you
can do the same thing in the small amount of time. And there’s this sort
of magical view of time that it will expand and…
00:42:42,960 In order to fulfill what you need to do. Yeah. Rather than planning
around it.
00:42:49,960 So, it’s quite typical, sort of, ADHD sort of thing. That like a time
management. As somebody was saying, there’s a really good…
00:42:58,960 There is no, not a trick, but a good way of doing with ADHD people in
terms of wanting to leave the house is… You never say you’ve got three
minutes. You say you have 180 seconds.
00:43:11,960 That’s it, yeah. And they can go… I’ve only got 180 seconds, but I get
ready to go. If you say three minutes, they’ll say, “Oh, I’ve got time to
put the wash on.”
00:43:20,960 Yeah, yeah. Three minutes sounds like… Yeah, yeah.
00:43:23,960 Yeah, that’s good. Yeah, but 180 seconds means… …is like seconds are
small bits of time.
00:43:29,960 Yeah, that’s it, exactly that. Yeah, well… So, we sort of brushed on
injustice quite a bit.
00:43:41,960 And I think that brings us nicely on to our Patreon question, actually. All
right. So, if you’re not a Patreon subscriber, we have subscribers now.
00:43:51,960 Excellent. Or certainly the ability to ask subscribers. And so, we have a
Patreon question,
00:44:00,960 which is just for the Patreon listener. Right. So, now’s your point to go
and subscribe.
00:44:07,960 Otherwise, you won’t hear. Otherwise, you won’t hear. How do they do
that? How do they do that?
00:44:11,960 Well, I think they go to our Patreon page, or our website. They can
access it through our website.
00:44:18,960 Do you have a link on your website? There will be a link on the website.
Yeah. There will be a link on the website.
00:44:23,960 And also, I think if you just went into Google and put in GetShirtty
podcast Patreon page, you can come up like that too. Woo!
00:44:31,960 And would you maybe at some point put a link on your podcast? Yeah,
on Spotify, all the links will be available. Is they offer all the other
aspects of the podcast, such as that Hazoo does our…
00:44:41,960 Is it DJ and music producer? Who does all of our wonderful tunes?
Perfect.
00:44:45,960 In fact, on the Patreon page, if you’re one of our subscribers, you can
get to all of the other tunes that they’ve done. Oh, wow.
00:44:52,960 All the music that you’ve done before? Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah.
00:44:55,960 Excellent. That is beautiful. Wonderful, wonderfully done.
00:44:58,960 But, so, now’s the point where if you’re a Patreon person, you’re
listening to us and those other people can’t hear it. Right.
00:45:06,960 Yeah, they’ve got… They’ve got disappeared. Yeah.
00:45:09,960 So, here comes a Patreon question. Here we go. Keeping the shirt up
hungo in.
00:45:13,960 Colored. So, this is about possibly injustice, or maybe not. So, we are
looking for a time in your life where you were either collared for
something
00:45:24,960 and you should have been, or you didn’t go away with it, or maybe you
were collared for something that wasn’t your fault. It doesn’t have to be
from an illegal point of view, or it doesn’t…
00:45:33,960 You know, it’s just one of those times in life where you’ve got the rat for
something or not when you should have done it. Oh, you’ve got to wait
for something.
00:45:41,960 Yeah. You should have been collared for something. Well.
00:45:45,960 Well, there we all were just having a jolly chat and someone went and
activated the Patreon question right into the proceedings, which of
course you won’t be hearing unless you are listening via our Patreon
page.
00:46:11,960 You can of course just nip over there if you want to, and join the fun, but
if not, you can content yourself with the fact that the Patreon members
aren’t hearing this bit. So, in a way, you have all got something special.
00:46:24,960 Let’s get back to it. Well, perfect Patreon question, and now we can
welcome everybody else back. Hello.
00:46:33,960 Hello, you. Hello, babe. For them, they’ve missed a call.
00:46:38,960 Oh, that was a good one, wasn’t it? They called? It was a call, you
know.
00:46:42,960 If only there was a one, they could hear that. If only there was a way
that they could hear that. Yeah.
00:46:48,960 Yeah. Well, that’s up to them, Stu. Yeah.
00:46:51,960 They have the power. They just have to press that button. They do.
00:46:55,960 All right. Here we go. Oh.
00:46:58,960 The bowler hat of sin. The bowler hat of sin. Look, is he so?
00:47:01,960 Here we go. This. When you were first on, we didn’t do this.
00:47:06,960 No. And then we, because we wanted to add a sort of an off the cuff
question, where the person didn’t have any, you know, idea about what
they were going to talk about.
00:47:17,960 I don’t really do. Yeah. And you’ve done exceptionally well, so we don’t
need to do it.
00:47:22,960 So we said off the cuff, that’s great. But how do we get the person to
pick the, so in this hat, a lot of little suggestions of things that you may
get sure to do.
00:47:38,760 All right. So pick the thing out of the hat, have a little look. Or is that that
usual?
00:47:44,760 Yeah. Okay. Okay.
00:47:47,760 I’m drawing this out to you, Bob. Anyway. So you’re helping the old
audience understand what’s going on over here.
00:47:52,760 Yeah. So, read the thing. Yeah.
00:47:55,760 What about that, is you sure to. Right. Off the cuff.
00:47:58,760 Right. You’ve got to think about it on the spot. Okay.
00:48:01,760 We didn’t know how to sort of deliver that. We’ll put them in a bowl of
hat. Now, it’s been suggested by numerous guests in different ways in
which we could have done
00:48:10,760 that. One of them was pinning them to a calf from the person that pulled
them off. Yeah.
00:48:14,760 It makes sense. And we said, no, they’ve gone in a hat. They’re going
to stay in a hat.
00:48:17,760 Yeah. And now this is the, it’s been called many things. We seem to be
certainly not a hatty calf.
00:48:23,760 It’s the hatty cuff of, of the cuffness. All right. So I love a bowler hat and
that’s a beautiful version of one.
00:48:29,760 It’s a, it’s a Christie’s bowler hat. And it used to belong to Katrina before
we got it in our… Of course it did.
00:48:36,760 Yeah. It’s Katrina’s hat. Katrina’s hat.
00:48:39,760 And there we go. Getting out the first one, then the first one, ladies and
gentlemen, tonight will be… How on earth did I manage to pick this?
00:48:48,760 Getting old. Oh! Well, you’re not old, so I think you’ve got to think about
it.
00:48:52,760 No, I’ve got to be a really sort of… You’ve got to use your actors imagine
that. Yeah.
00:48:57,760 What if? What if? I was getting old.
00:49:00,760 If you, what if you’ve been old? What if? Well, there are, there are so
many things.
00:49:06,760 There are so many things. One of the things I was talking to the other
day, for me enough, with a friend of mine is, of course in your head, you
don’t ever get old.
00:49:15,760 So in your head, you spring out of that chair and mentally you do. It’s
just your body doesn’t follow. That’s the perfect shot.
00:49:24,760 It has, and it also has to make noises to do so. You have to make noise
to get up and to, you know, and suddenly there’s your knees don’t work
quite the way and there’s a pain where you think, why is there a pain
there?
00:49:38,760 And interestingly enough, again, this is my return. Last time I didn’t
have glasses. Now I have a pair of glasses.
00:49:46,760 So my 2020 pilot vision, again, is going and now… They’re not glasses?
Thank you very much.
00:49:53,760 Thank you. I’m now juggling some very focus, which again is your body
letting you down. And I think that’s perhaps the most annoying thing
about getting old is the spirit’s willing,
00:50:11,760 but the body is weak. Yeah, and we talk about, well, well, I mean, well,
I’ve just talked about knees quite a lot. I’ve been wanting to do it.
00:50:23,760 I’ve made my knees grumbling all the time. I’m just going, I’ve got
slightly hypermoved by knees. Does that mean they’re really moving
around a lot?
00:50:33,760 They go the wrong way. Oh, oh, wow, okay. Superbend, which is good,
bad, and bad, because you get older, they get jointy and they get
painful.
00:50:43,760 I heard a quote, which is one I used a lot, it sums up what you said. I
wish I knew who said it, but I don’t know, and it was that my mind
cannot conceive of how old my body is. They’re good, yes, that is
absolutely 100%.
00:50:57,760 Yeah. Yeah, it’s, I mean, there are plus sides of getting old, I think. And
it’s, they’re quite easy to overlook, because the body isn’t as willing as it
was,
00:51:12,760 because that constant, of course, when you’re young, and aching a
pain comes and goes, you know, it’s because you’ve done some sport
and you’ve pulled a muscle or something. Rather than, rather than
you’ve, you’re living with the grumble.
00:51:29,760 Yeah. You know, that’s the thing you tend to, once the glasses go on,
the glasses have to stay on. Yeah, you’re learning to live with the
grumble.
00:51:36,760 Learning to live with the grumble. Yeah. Which again, why is put that in
the book?
00:51:42,760 How, learning how to live with your grumble? Yeah. Yeah, and they sort
of sneak up on you, don’t they?
00:51:50,760 Yeah, that, when you, when I was younger and I saw people do that,
getting out of a chair noise, I thought, oh, you know, well, I’m never
going to make that noise when you do. You do.
00:52:00,760 You don’t realise it after time. It’s subconscious. Yeah.
00:52:04,760 Getting offered seats on buses and tubes has a very strange reaction.
There’s part of you that thanks them and there’s part of you that wants
to say, what do you mean? Yeah, yeah.
00:52:20,760 Yeah. Why do you want me to sit down? Yeah.
00:52:24,760 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:27,760 Exactly that. Yeah, there’s that sort of grateful in gratitude. Yeah,
something, yeah.
00:52:34,760 Thank you. Yeah. So I would like to sit down.
00:52:37,760 I don’t know why I want to sit down. I don’t know why you’re asking me
to sit down, but I am going to sit down. Yeah, yeah.
00:52:42,760 But obviously, on your face is the look of I really would like to sit down.
Yeah. I know.
00:52:50,760 And there’s the reverse of that when someone who is more deserving
of the seat that your end comes along and you think, I really don’t want
to stand up, but this person really should sit in your own eye. Yes.
00:53:01,760 Yeah. It’s fun, isn’t it? Although small children, when I was growing up, if
you were a small child, you always stood up.
00:53:07,760 If anybody was older, if there were ten years older than you, you stood
up. And seemingly now, wonder parents, if you have a small child,
there’s almost an expectation that they should have the seat, even
above older people, because they’re a small child.
00:53:24,760 Well, their bones are really strong and… Yeah. Their knees aren’t
growing.
00:53:29,760 Yeah, and they don’t have ground. And if you don’t want to sit down,
then you could pick them up and hold them, because they are any
small. All you stand, I stand up.
00:53:37,760 Yeah, I’ll sit them on your knee and don’t take up two seats. Yeah, of
course. Oh, they see, and I almost go into her.
00:53:45,760 How long? Yeah. I’ve seen what sort of 7, 6, 7, 8?
00:53:50,760 What about it, 12? Well, I don’t think of them as 12. But I want you to
get to senior school for me.
00:53:56,760 They should definitely be able to stand up. But you see, they should.
I’m a little bit against this whole child should stand up for an adult.
00:54:05,760 Don’t see why the adult is more deserving. I see what you mean. I think
an older adult, an older adult, that maybe…
00:54:12,760 Oh, no, just if a 20s… No, a 12-year-old shouldn’t stand up for a
20-something, there’s something for you. You’re an adult.
00:54:18,760 Yeah. You’re a child should give that a seat. We agree with that.
00:54:23,760 That’s not what you’re saying. No, it’s the level of deservedness of the
adult. Yeah, is there a little…
00:54:29,760 A child, a little old lady who looks in firm on her feet, a kid should stand
up. Yeah.
00:54:36,760 But yeah, another child, such a adult. Yeah, that’s what I mean, yeah.
So if an adult should stand up, then a kid should stand up.
00:54:43,760 And I think maybe a little kid should vacate a seat for an adult. Or an
adult that has a child that’s actually in a push chair and that’s taken
them out in the push chair and is sitting on a seat on the bus.
00:54:56,760 So he’s obviously able to actually sit on their knee and as an adult,
stood next to them, maybe it fits a small enough child that the child
should be able to sit on their parents knee.
00:55:06,760 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.
00:55:09,760 I’ve got… Are you ready for my old, getting old, Grumble? Because I
feel like I’d like to join in.
00:55:16,760 So we’ve got some information on the quote. Oh, boy. We think you’re
the most remarkable, Douglas.
00:55:21,760 Yeah. Ah! All right.
00:55:24,760 I’m in the south of Kirk. Yes. My brain cannot conceive of how old my
body is.
00:55:31,760 Yeah. There you go. I wonder if Catherine agrees with him, anyway.
00:55:36,760 Yeah. I imagine her brain can very much conceive of how old his body
is. That’s why he came up with it.
00:55:43,760 Yeah, probably. They’ve seen to have lasted the test a time. Absolutely.
00:55:48,760 Yeah. No. First thing in the morning claw, I have, when you wake up in
the morning,
00:55:53,760 you wake up in the morning, you go, “Oh, my hands don’t seem to be
working for 30 seconds until I move my fingers.” Oh, there’s the blood.
00:56:00,760 Yes, there is. Which is very different from a young man’s morning. Very,
very different to a young man’s morning claw, yes.
00:56:07,760 Oh, my God. Sorry. Look.
00:56:10,760 Nice shit, again. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, that sort of…
00:56:14,760 One hand more than the other. Again, I’m not quite sure what you’re
talking about. I’m back on the claw.
00:56:19,760 Okay. Back on the not working hands claw. Yeah, one’s my right hand.
00:56:24,760 All right, okay. I think this sounds, depends on what side I’ve slapped.
Slipped, okay.
00:56:29,760 Yeah, so getting old is great. Great, isn’t it? Yeah, great.
00:56:33,760 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Very, really enjoyable.
00:56:36,760 So don’t be late because you haven’t got much time left. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
00:56:40,760 But you’re providing us with many… We’ll have to do a nice cut of all
nodules worth of wisdom for you. We’ve had a lot of catchphrase E.
00:56:50,760 Panfit. Yeah, we could produce a pamphlet. Yeah, a little bit of Nigel.
00:56:54,760 Yes, yeah. A thoughtful German Nigel. Yeah, yeah.
00:56:57,760 Yeah, sure. And Nigel’s words of wisdom. Yeah, that could be a regular
thing, actually.
00:57:01,760 We could just say, “Send your message.” Yeah, just thought for the day.
Yeah, do a little voice now every now and again.
00:57:08,760 And his nodules thought for the day. And we could chuck them in. Yeah.
00:57:11,760 Well, listen, Nigel, it’s been a real pleasure to have you back on the
podcast. The first second measure. And, well, hopefully we’ll come up
with a really snappy title for the third instalment when you come back
again.
00:57:31,760 It was a pleasure and always well-busy. We’ll have bionic ears, also.
Oh, well.
00:57:35,760 Thank you. But thanks very much. Thank you.
00:57:38,760 [Music] So, there have been a better way to kick off the new second
measures of Get Shirti, yes, than that wonderful chat with Nigel. It’s
always a pleasure to chat with him and to find out more about him too.
00:58:18,760 Obviously, grateful we aren’t either nuns or scouts. Thanks to Nigel for
giving up his time again to come and see us. And we can’t wait to show
you what he’s decided for a shirt.
00:58:26,760 It’s time out, too. Thanks, as always, to Stuart, #J2Wilson for Cohosting
and his editing and production. Thanks also to Sam Whiskers for the
co-hosting, so he said she would do one day and for the web Whiskers
Live fact checking too.
00:58:42,760 Thanks also to Dat Hazard for the music on this and every episode. I’m
your host, Stuart Hardman, so I suppose thanks to me, too. Until we
meet next time, do try not to get too shorty.
00:58:54,760 [Music] [Music] I had buttids, Bernard Kribbins.
00:59:23,760 I know, I know. I grew up loving Bernard Kribbins, but that was what I
had to do. That was my part in the piece I was a heavy, that had to give
him a bit of a slap.
00:59:38,760 And I’m firm. He was a very, very lovely man. [Music]
01:00:13,760 Next, get shot. [Music] Let’s get shot.
01:00:58,760 Back in your underwear. [Music] Web Whiskers here, fucking hold on.
01:01:09,760 Do me a wedding day, Sam. Get me paper sorted out. Web Whiskers
here, there was a question, no there wasn’t, there was a something by
somebody who wanted to know something.
01:01:23,760 Thank you. Fuck, Pollock’s, twat. I’m gonna keep going.
01:01:29,760 I said, “Making Rowl last time, didn’t I?” Fucking prick, langed her face,
prick. West, west, fuck my love.
01:01:41,760 Web Whiskers, over and out. If you could make anything out of that,
then do, if not then I’ll do it at home. Again, I’ve just pulled up in a car
park.
